Twilight vs Buffy: The vampire worlds of Meyer and Whedon
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Thedeadbolt.com has an article on Twilight vs Buffy. Being a huge fan of Twilight and Buffy, I’m curious to hear everyone’s true opinion on the two comparisons. I like them both so much, that I have fansites for both. (The Buffy site is in progress) So, tell me what you think.

Vampire mythology has been translated and interpreted in many varied ways throughout several different generations. With the birth of film and television, the facility to portray different vampire legends and theories surrounding the mysterious bloodsuckers has allowed many creative minds to add to the mythology while transforming it into their own unique visual concept. As early as the 1920s, vampires were finding their way to the silver screen in movies like the German made Nosferatu, which went on to inspire the creation of even more vampire films that are still captivating moviegoers to this day with such hits as the Stephenie Meyer based Twilight saga starring Robert Pattinson, Kristen Stewart, and Taylor Lautner. Vampires have turned up in parodies, horror films, and even romantic comedies and serious dramas, all made under the common bloodsucking concept, each one with their own unique liberties that have expanded the mythical vampire history.
In recent years, pre Twilight, one of the most successful additions to the vampire universe in both film and TV was the massively popular Joss Whedon TV series, Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Originally a film starring Kristy Swanson as Buffy the Vampire Slayer, the movie concept of Buffy was subsequently turned into a television series by creator Joss Whedon and aired for seven seasons between UPN and The WB. The TV series followed the heroic high school exploits of Buffy Summers, a vampire slayer played by Sarah Michelle Geller, tasked with saving the world while living a normal life among loyal mortal friends, working with her Watcher, and co-existing with a variety of good and bad vampires, including Angel and Spike, that she also relates to and even falls in love with.Joss Whedon was able to add his own unique layers to the vampire mythology by infusing traditional aspects of vampires – death by sunlight and their aversion to holy water along with the very well known stake to the heart – with relatable real life drama that young teens could identify with as they came of age. To the fans that tuned in to Buffy each week, it was relatable drama because not only do we often feel the isolation that a vampire feels but we also know deep down that there are vampires walking among us each day, figuratively speaking.

When Buffy the Vampire Slayer ended in 2003, many fans were left bereft with an ending to the series that was very much open-ended. For Buffy fans, a lot of questions weren’t answered. Regardless of the series finale, Buffy the Vampire Slayer was very important in offering a new, more human view of vampires by turning them into compassionate creatures. In many ways Buffy the Vampire Slayer followed in the emotional footsteps of Interview with the Vampire, which empathized with the tortured vampire character instead of rehashing the traditional two-dimensional malicious fanged bloodsucker dressed in a cape.
With the success of the Twilight saga, a new vampire story is adding to the vampire lore. Stephenie Meyer’s vampire world is very similar to the Joss Whedon-verse. But the layers within Twilight, New Moon, Eclipse and the Twilight world at large are also very different than those within the Buffy series.

In Twilight, the introduction of Edward Cullen and his clan follows very much in line with the idea of a reformed vampire making the personal choice to refrain from killing humans as a way of distancing themselves from the mentality of being a “vicious bloodsucker”. In the Buffy world, while Angel was “ensouled” by force after his alter ego, Angelus, angered a gypsy clan and was cursed with a soul, Spike, one of Angel’s “children” reformed by choice. The romantic notion that follows Spike’s story allowed the James Marsters character to change his nature because of his love for Buffy, the slayer. This of course went against Spike’s very nature as a vampire, a forbidden love between bitter enemies. In the Twilight series, Edward and his family do not encounter a Slayer but instead have a rivalry with the werewolf pack of the Quileute tribe. This Twilight storyline can also be found in the Underworld series as the Lycans and vampires battle for supremacy.

Deeper into Twilight, New Moon Eclipse, and beyond, The Cullens, as they are described in the Twilight novels, do not share the same traits as the vampires created by Joss Whedon. The Stephenie Meyer vampires don’t incinerate when exposed to the sun. Instead the Meyer Twilight vamps become more beautiful than they were before. The Joss Whedon universe established vampires that follow more in line with traditional lore. However, their physical appeal, especially in the reformed heroes, is a quality that they do share with the vampires in the Twilight, New Moon, and the remainder of the Twilight series.
The Cullens are described as being astonishingly good-looking, each in their own individual way from their piercing eyes to their elegant grace. As compared to Buffy, Angel and Spike are both good-looking in their individual ways but the transformation from human guise to vampire facial transformation is something that has not been explored yet in the Twilight series. James, the villain in the first Twilight film, managed to transform slightly when he bit the character Bella Swan (Kristen Stewart), which slightly touched on the subject. But the brief transformation tease was nowhere near the same degree as the vampires in Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
Perhaps the most important difference between the Stephenie Meyer Twilight series and Joss Whedon’s Buffy is the absence of fear in Twilight. Bella is not afraid of Edward’s true vampire nature, which can be attributed to his constant human guise. While Edward of twilight and his family are exceptionally powerful and lithe, those attributes only strengthen their physical appeal. The underlying concept of their true nature only becomes evident with James and his clan, and to a slightly lesser degree, Jasper who continues to struggle with his bloodlust in Twilight and New Moon. Edward’s protectiveness of Bella also serves as a motivator in his ability to try and reign in his more natural impulses of hunting and killing. Edward’s pseudo father Carlisle is able to control his bloodlust so well that he seems almost unaffected in any way by Bella’s all too obvious mortality. In the TV world of Buffy, the true nature of the vampire is made evident in every episode since the very essence of the show is about Buffy being a slayer, and therefore Buffy must slay vampires and demons. In Buffy the element of fear was (and is) always present.
With two similar yet distinct interpretations of vampires and their history, Joss Whedon and Stephenie Meyer have both reshaped and remixed the popular vampire concept and character to create a more compassionate and human world for them to live in. The interaction that the vampires in both Buffy and Twilight maintain with humans is as important as their depictions, both physical and emotional.
For Edward Cullen, the brooding physical appeal is as much a draw for Bella as Angel and Spike’s prowess and sexual appeal was alluring for Buffy. Buffy’s relationship with Spike was much more destructive than the relationship that Bella has with Edward, as Meyer’s romanticized version of a forbidden love has been tamed to a lesser degree. This could be due in part to the series’ large youth audience, although Edward is not entirely perfect in his portrayal of the tortured heartthrob. With millions of fans worldwide, the Stephanie Meyer vampire saga has clearly been embraced with open arms and not met with much resistance. For fans of the Buffy franchise, their heroes, Spike and Angel, will forever be seen as desperados who went against their very vampire nature to protect the woman they both loved. The notion is romantic, yes, but what vampire story would be complete without it?

With the New Moon clock winding down toward the first day of filming on March 23, Twilight fans worldwide will be eagerly awaiting the next installment of the Twilight series, where Edward and his family continue their road to redemption.
So the final question remains … Which is the better vampire universe, Twilight, New Moon and beyond or the world of Buffy? Tell us what you think.


















March 10th, 2009 at 2:43 am
They both are awesome.
My main reason for thinking Buffy is better than twilight is the way the characters are portrayed. Twilights characters are realistic and intriguing but they are all so weak and pretty much vulnerable 24/7. On buffy the vampire slayer (notice the strong female title) they show their vulnerabilities, but they deal with them and are so empowering.
also the feminist in me loves that Buffy is a strong beautiful young teenage girl that takes charge, and Bella is simple a teenage girl that needs her boyfriend to babysit her every second.
March 22nd, 2009 at 12:02 pm
I disliked Twilight for every reason I love Buffy. The characters are deeper and more three dimensional than Twilight’s characters could ever pretend to be. The love stories between Buffy/Angel and later Spike were well developed and didn’t fall into pale pastel goth stereotypes. The male love interests were also truly menacing. I remember seeing Angel’s vamp face for the first time and was as shocked as Buffy. I never once thought Edward was truly threatening. I also prefer strong female leads like Buffy. She was a strong person who was attracted to strong men. Bella seems more helpless and timid, attracted to the most timid of fictional vampires. I can’t see how any young female could see the helpless Bella as a role-model. Buffy was the embodiment of girl-power without falling into the She woman man hater that is so associated with female empowerment. Bella is more helpless than the typical damsel in distress you find in superhero stories.
March 28th, 2009 at 8:26 am
I love buffy too much to even think about watching twilight! i just cant bring myself to watch it even tho im sure its good too! i would feel like i was being unfaithful to buffy
also twilight maniac, spike was not reformed by choice he was effectively neutered by the iniative which had a lot to do with him falling in love with buffy eventually wanting to have his soul restored! thats just my opinion tho!
March 28th, 2009 at 8:43 am
Ciara, I too am a major Buffy fan and actually probably know more about this series than I do twilight. And yes, Twilight is very good. I did not write this article, but I believe what they are saying about Spike being reformed by choice is just the fact that he wanted his soul where as Angel did not. Personally I don’t believe that the Iniative’s neutering of Spike really had anything to do with him falling in love with Buffy. I think Spike had hidden feelings for her even before that happened. But like you said, that’s just my opinion. I’m a huge James Marster’s fan and I’m currently working on a new website that will feature the characters of Buffy! Thanks for commenting.
April 10th, 2009 at 7:03 am
I am a Buffy/Angel fan. I was shocked to learn my brother was reading this adolescent vampire book (he’s 30) as well as my mother. I was increasingly shocked to learn it was a pretty close premise to that of Buffy. I refused to indulge in this 2nd rate Buffy ripoff.
Last night, however, I watched Twilight, I figured I could give it a shot. I wasn’t impressed with the quality of filming and effects, but I was drawn into the story by the main characters. I’m a sucker for a brooding man and a forbidden love.
While I could find some interest in the film, I was shocked at how parallel the story lines were to that of Buffy. Maybe the book delves into deeper subjects, but as far as I could tell the film is very shallow, with only one theme.
I am surprised there hasn’t been more outrage from Buffy fans regarding Meyer’s obvious rip-off of Whedon’s ideas.
April 29th, 2009 at 8:41 pm
I think the point we might be missing here is that Twilight is picking up a generation who have missed Buffy and this might result in a Buffy resurgence.
While the stronger characterisations and the more menacing element are more evident in Buffy these are not always identifiable amongst teens. They might aspire to girl power but the strength of Bella’s character is that she is uncoordinated and unbecoming yet very mature, very driven at school and is willing to show fearlessness even when she is afraid.
I would love to think that my daughter would go kick but in the world but the reality is that she is more like Bella than Buffy so my hope is that if she identifies with the character at all then she sees that fearless,driven quality as a positive without feeling inadequate about her lack of an extrovert nature.
As to the differences between the vampire characters, again Edward is completely vulnerable which is exactly what is drawing the fans in. He is supernatural so he has that god-like quality, he believes that he has no soul which manifests in a conscience but he is also stuck in the dorkiness of a 17 year old male. It is an interesting mix.
May 3rd, 2009 at 11:00 pm
Wow, what a great article and discussion! I missed the Buffy phenomenon when it occurred, but was delighted to come to it later in life (am now 32) and am still an avid fan. I was entranced in the obvious parallels when i started reading Twilight, but can appreciate both for what they are – an unusual love story.
Plagiarism? There are no real original stories anymore and haven’t been since the dark ages. You can’t convince me that the paranormal love scenario between Buffy and all her Romeo’s was original even then… and any five minute delve into the shelves of fantasy fiction of the eras would prove it. But i can’t be bothered… becuase i love new stories, and can usually find pleasure even in an old story re-told in a new way.
Plus, I totally agree with ‘jlou’ who said Twilight is picking up on a whole new generation of human vs vampire fans. Not only that, but i’m finding that the Meyer series is a lot more cross-generational than Buffy was. I’m reading comments and meeting people in their 60s who are loving it, while Buffy was quite a narrow market even in it’s hey-day.
Can’t wait to put myself into the next love story!
May 24th, 2009 at 10:08 pm
I too am a buffy fan. Although both set of guys are typical brooders, but you actually see the love develop from respect and awe in angel and spike towards buffy, instead of some weird blood lust thing.
I also hope no child is really like bella (i sort of detest her, although i have to agree that her and edward’s forbidden love thing really draws me in) but i guess i never liked the idea of throwing away your life for any one, not to mention your humanity, because even she didn’t know what would happen when she became a vampire. Buffy on the other hand was sometimes quite childish, irrational and flawed, but i guess it was a much more relatable flaws of growing up for me (like wanting to fit in – come on bella didn’t even try, wanting to fall in love, having a career and future, etc).
More importantly know one writes as well as Joss whedon, not crazy romance novel style writing, but sharp witted dialogues and metaphors and just drama perfect for film and tv. And his characters are all so strong but fragile and with 7 years, they all had so much depth, growth and complexity.
Yes, i am a buffy fan:P
November 13th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
Good post, nice info. One of my favorite topics, very few good writers out there who are well researched.
November 20th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
Buffy/Angel rule!!!!!! Twilight is just a really bad copy of BtVS! <3 <3 Buffy <3 <3 Angel <3 <3
January 1st, 2010 at 2:42 pm
Im a big buffy fan. i used to love twiliht but when i saw this series i realized how much steaphaine meyer ripped off whedon. Its unfair and mean. Buffy and Angel forever!!!